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Post by rahimtx on Jul 13, 2011 19:50:47 GMT -5
Giants Send:
2013 1st (9-10) HB A. Bradshaw age 25 rating 89 cap 17 yr 6 A Pot WR M. Manningham age 26 rating 82 cap 7 yr B pot ROLB C. Stintum age 25 rating 76 cap 5 yr 3 B pot
Dolphins Send:
2013 2nd (52) ROLB D. Ware age 29 rating 96 cap 18 yr 3 A Pot WR B. Marshall age 27 rating 95 cap 21 yr 2 A Pot LOLB K. Misi age 24 rating 83 cap 7 yr 3 B Pot
Breakdown:
Ware for my 2013 1st (9-10) Marshall for Bradshaw Misi for Manningham 2nd (52) for Stintum
If you go by that breakdown, It seems fairly even in my opinion.
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Post by confuzius on Jul 13, 2011 22:27:07 GMT -5
the only thing that gives me pause on both theses Giant trades, which i approved, is I have not seen the same valuation from other owners as far as first round picks.
The two times I offered first rounds one for a star TE and the other for a young A potential DE, both owners wanted substantially more than just a first round pick.
I am sure the valuation of picks will be a group conversation we have over a period of time, hopefully we can come up with some fairly objective guidelines.
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Post by confuzius on Jul 13, 2011 22:30:29 GMT -5
Crap, I now realize I don't even have a vote.
Rahim!!!!!!!!! (Shakes fist in air)
EDIT: Well maybe I do have a vote. Not sure the status of the trade committee now...
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Post by lions11 on Jul 13, 2011 22:36:39 GMT -5
The best OLB in football is worth more than a first. Especially since last time, Miami overpaid, and we came up with the explanation if u want the best OLB in the game, you should have to over pay.
Marshall is worth more than Bradshaw.
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Post by tommybomb789 on Jul 13, 2011 23:17:11 GMT -5
Clay Matthews 98ovr says otherwise
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Post by tryintobe72phins on Jul 13, 2011 23:17:55 GMT -5
The best OLB in football is worth more than a first. Especially since last time, Miami overpaid, and we came up with the explanation if u want the best OLB in the game, you should have to over pay. Marshall is worth more than Bradshaw. so should i drop misi and 2nd would that help?
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Post by dgambit on Jul 13, 2011 23:18:32 GMT -5
What are the potentials of the players? info needed to vote
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Post by tryintobe72phins on Jul 13, 2011 23:20:27 GMT -5
i accept as long as 10 other players vote yes and say it is fair
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Post by rahimtx on Jul 13, 2011 23:23:50 GMT -5
updated potentials
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Post by Skrek (Panthers) on Jul 14, 2011 4:30:39 GMT -5
Giants Send: 2013 1st (9-10) HB A. Bradshaw age 25 rating 89 cap 17 yr 6 A Pot WR M. Manningham age 26 rating 82 cap 7 yr B pot ROLB C. Stintum age 25 rating 76 cap 5 yr 3 B pot Dolphins Send: 2013 2nd (52) ROLB D. Ware age 29 rating 96 cap 18 yr 3 A Pot WR B. Marshall age 27 rating 95 cap 21 yr 2 A Pot LOLB K. Misi age 24 rating 83 cap 7 yr 3 B Pot Breakdown: Ware for my 2013 1st (9-10) Marshall for Bradshaw Misi for Manningham 2nd (52) for Stintum If you go by that breakdown, It seems fairly even in my opinion. You could argue Ware's equivalency to a top 10 pick. Though this portion of the trade slightly favors the Giants. Marshall's a stud. Bradshaw + Stintum for Marshall seems fairly close, though favoring the Giants in the section as well. And then Manningham for Misi and a 2nd. This is fair enough, though weighs in the Dolphins favor, enough to cancel out the difference of the 1st two sections for me. In the end, it's close enough to pass for me. And how can you say 'no' to the Dolphins acquiring another HB? C'mon.
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Post by tryintobe72phins on Jul 14, 2011 4:40:15 GMT -5
Giants Send: 2013 1st (9-10) HB A. Bradshaw age 25 rating 89 cap 17 yr 6 A Pot WR M. Manningham age 26 rating 82 cap 7 yr B pot ROLB C. Stintum age 25 rating 76 cap 5 yr 3 B pot Dolphins Send: i will be cutting some hb's 2013 2nd (52) ROLB D. Ware age 29 rating 96 cap 18 yr 3 A Pot WR B. Marshall age 27 rating 95 cap 21 yr 2 A Pot LOLB K. Misi age 24 rating 83 cap 7 yr 3 B Pot Breakdown: Ware for my 2013 1st (9-10) Marshall for Bradshaw Misi for Manningham 2nd (52) for Stintum If you go by that breakdown, It seems fairly even in my opinion. You could argue Ware's equivalency to a top 10 pick. Though this portion of the trade slightly favors the Giants. Marshall's a stud. Bradshaw + Stintum for Marshall seems fairly close, though favoring the Giants in the section as well. And then Manningham for Misi and a 2nd. This is fair enough, though weighs in the Dolphins favor, enough to cancel out the difference of the 1st two sections for me. In the end, it's close enough to pass for me. And how can you say 'no' to the Dolphins acquiring another HB? C'mon.
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Post by kingbryk on Jul 14, 2011 7:13:50 GMT -5
i voted yes. I think in a SIM season league the 1st round pick is worth more than in a normal laague. Take the bills for example with all that youth in 2 years of simming look out. Dolphins can take a A pot beast in the top 10 to replace ware.
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Post by guzman11 on Jul 14, 2011 7:34:48 GMT -5
King & Skrek make good points. Yes from me, #1 picks here are your best chance at replacing studs and depending how many seasons we go, the upside/potential of a #1 is more than Ware has entering our 3rd season.
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Post by kingbryk on Jul 14, 2011 9:27:02 GMT -5
couple more votes on this trade guys
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Post by gramazins on Jul 14, 2011 9:27:19 GMT -5
I'd like to veto this just on the basis that Ware should never be on the Giants
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